Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1998:February:10 Tuesday <Monday, Wednesday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
1998/2/10 [Uncategorized] UID:13647 Activity:nil
2/9     The run-away process problem with omega is solved and it is restored.
        It was the emergency save code that hung so I disabled it for now till
        the problem can be further diagnosed.  -- danh
           I was _so_ upset to hear that omega had gone away.
1998/2/10 [Uncategorized] UID:13648 Activity:high
2/10    More rain! Argh! F---ing baby Jesus.
        \_ Qu?  Tiene algn problema con El Nio?
1998/2/10 [Uncategorized] UID:13649 Activity:nil
2/10    NOTE: On 3/31/97, the Divisional Council's Ad Hoc Committee
        on the Academic Calendar, which had been considering a fundamental
        retooling of the semester calendar, concluded that there is no
        clear mandate for changing the current academic calendar, either
        to return to quarters or to have fall semester exams after Christmas
1998/2/10-11 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:13650 Activity:high
2/10    Perl is a great language. However, how do you pass by reference
        a complex data structure? I am able to pass by reference a simple
        list when my subroutine refers to $_[$num], but when I have to
        pass a hash of hash and hash of list, I don't know how to change
        the referenced value anymore! Please help, thanks.
        \_ See "perldoc perldsc" for examples and an explanation.
        \_ list of hash and list of list are easier to demonstrate:
                %h1 = %h2 = %h3 = ();
                $loh = (\%h1, \%h2, \%h3);
                ($h1ref, $h2ref, $h3ref) = @$loh;
                @l1 = @l2 = @l3 = ();
                $lol = (\@l1, \@l2, \@l3);
                ($l1ref, $l2ref, $l3ref) = @$lol;
           get it?
           \_ Yes, that I get, but how about hash of list and hash of hash?
                perldoc perldsc does not explain any of this. Thanks.
                \_ IT"S THE SAME WAY:  %obj = ('alphabets' => ['a', 'b', 'c'],
                                               'numbers' => [1, 2, 3],
                                               'subs' => [ &get, &put, &set ]);
                \_ elements of hashes and lists must be scalars.  This means
                  that you have to have lists of hash refs and hashes whose
                  values are refs of whatever thingies you want.  Boy this
                  is confusing, but I hope I answered your question.
                  \_ oh man, took me a whole week to figure this out. pUrl
                     sucks!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I have to create a totally separate
                     class to handle pass by reference a "slightly" more
                     complicated data structure.
                     \_ Nothing wrong with the lanauge.  You just suck because
                        you didn't RTFM *before* you spent a week writing
                        total crap code.  "WAAAH! I DIDN'T READ THE MANUAL
                        SO IT SUKZ!!!!!"
                        \_If it takes more than 'awk', just write it in
                          C.  -meyers
1998/2/10-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13651 Activity:nil
2/10    Any mailers here support LDIF ? I wanna use my address book from
        netscape mail
1998/2/10-11 [Computer/SW/Unix, Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:13652 Activity:high
2/10    Does anyone know an easy way to decode an octet-stream attachment
        for word.  elm can't handle it.  -adr
        \_ If it's a word file, the MIME type shouldn't be octet-stream.
           Get the bozo who sent it to you to fix his mail program.
        \_ Read the message closely : elm means unix usually and word
           will be thought of as octet-stream .  Uncle Bill does make
          UNIX ports of Word.
                \_ Bullshit.  Word is for Windows and Mac only.
          \_ No, Word should be thought of as application/msword.  That's
             what MIME types are FOR.  octet-stream would be something like
             a raw binary.
          \_ Really?  I thought only WordPerfect has UNIX versions.  -- yuen
                \_ Whether or not there's a Unix version, the MIME type is
1998/2/10-11 [Computer/Theory] UID:13653 Activity:high
2/10    size(NT5) = 2 * size(NT4).  Oh boy.
        \_ Twice the bloat, half the power, quadruple the bugs.  Although
           I'm pretty sure that size(NT?) will overflow anyway so this isn't
           a valid formula on most computational devices.  Might be computable
           if you had a *lot* of paper.
           \_ Isn't quadruple rather optimistic?
                \_ I was figuring it'd be quadruple after service pack 4 or 5.
1998/2/10 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java] UID:13654 Activity:nil
2/10    Four years ago Sun had a commercial blitz on Java, and everyone flocked
        to it (we're not even going to discuss how Java is failing miserably
        right now). Now, four years later, Sun has a commercial blitz on
        Network Computing, and now everyone is going to flock to it (we're not
        even going to discuss how NC is going to fail). Sun is STUPID.
        \_ Twue, but they are finally putting out PCI-based workstations.
                \_ Oooohhh Ahhhh they're going to finally replace every single
                   PC in the entire universe with this awsomely c00l PCI shit
                   that PC had long time ago! BABY!!! SUN RUL3Z MAN!!!!!!
        \_ Sun is full of smart Phds who make wonderful gadgets but don't know
           anything about selling their products. Microsoft is full of dumb ass
           college dropouts who make horrible gadgets but are superior at
           selling their products. Go figure.
1998/2/10-11 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:13655 Activity:moderate
2/10    Do RoverBot and other Spiders usually traverse through your first level
        of *.cgi? Thanks.

           /- no.
         _ Perl IS THE GREATEST LANGUAGE IN THE WORLD! My mom uses it, my dad
        /  uses it, and SO SHOULD YOU OR ELSE YOU ARE NOT HUMAN!!!
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