Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1998:January:21 Wednesday <Thursday>
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1998/1/21 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:13524 Activity:very high
1/20    So, this Intel compression proxy thing... is this similar to that
        proxy called "Transend" that some Berkeley students came up with?
        \_ sorta, but not as scalable and they stole the ideas from us.
           (The transend group gave a talk to intel about a year before
           the started working on the project)
           \_What the $%$! for? An open presentation, fine. But specifically
             going to present things to a company that is known to compete in
             things like that? yik.
                \_ Umm...this is a University - we believe in sharing
                   information - we're not in competition with companies.
                   (If we were competing with Intel, you think they would
                    be donating millions of dollars worth of PC's every year?)
                   \_ acutally my bitch isn't that they made it.  But
                      that there is NO credit given to our ideas and that
                      Intel is trying to patent a lot of things we had done
                      earlier.
                        \_ If you published, they can't patent.  You *did*
                           publish, right?  Oh?  You didn't?  Then how do we
                           know you did anything at all?  How do we know *you*
                           didn't steal *their* ideas?
                           \_ uh we published, lots.  The point is now we
                              need to defend our work and Intel is being
                              lame, espeically considering they KNEW that
                              they were taking ideas from glomop,
                             \_ Maybe you should give it up and go work for
                                Intel on their new Transcend project?  I hear
                                they may have some lower level positions for
                                some bright young newbies looking for a start
                                in the world.  If you're lucky, after a year
                                or two of doing backups, they might let you
                                write a few small snipets of code.
        \_ wasn't there a URL for it somewhere locally?
1998/1/21 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:13525 Activity:nil
1/20    I miss Christine.  Can someone bring her back to soda?
        \_ Too late, she's not a virgin anymore
           \_ So if I read this right, you haveta be a virgin to be on soda?
        \_ Sometimes the only thing you can say is, "GET A LIFE!"
1998/1/21 [Science/Space, Health/Men] UID:13526 Activity:kinda low
1/20    What the fuck is Nasa wasting money sending John Glenn
        into the orbit again?
        \_ To study the effect of old men having heart attack in space?
        \_ To see how much more sex urge an old man has in space?
        \_ Give it to me!  Give it to me!
           \_ the money or John Glenn?
                \_ The heart attack.
1998/1/21 [Recreation/Humor] UID:13527 Activity:nil
1/20    It would be funny to add the following lines to my srm.conf:
                AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .asp
        \_ WOW!  You have a *great* sense of humor!  You must get all the
           babes in the singles places with jokes like that!
           \_ "Hey babe, wanna see me with my dual Pentium II 300Mhz?"
            \_ VIRTUAL PENIS!
1998/1/21 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:13528 Activity:nil
1/20    Does Soda have any sort of book buy/sell list? If not, anyone know
        of a good one?
        \_ what happened to /csua/classes?
                \_ it's in /csua/pub/classes
1998/1/21 [Uncategorized] UID:13529 Activity:nil 50%like:13586
1/20    Wednesday.  7pm.  B5, season 5 premier.  Casa de Nick.  Be there.
1998/1/21 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:13530 Activity:nil
1/20    Sysadmin job available at Active Software.  UNIX/Windows/backup
        sysadmin mostly.  Webmaster experience also required.  See
        /csua/pub/jobs/Active. -eric
1998/1/21 [Consumer/PDA, Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:13531 Activity:nil
1-20    Can anyone recommend a brand/distributor for a good SCSI tape
        loader for backing up ~30 gigs or more?  Exabyte 8mm or DAT 4mm
        preferred.  This is for Linux and Solaris.      -randal
        \_ Possibly under $1500 would be good.
        \_ DAT drives known to work/pseudo-supported for solaris:
             Python 29279, EXABYTE EXB-4200c(I THINK that is DAT),
                \_ Exabyte does not equal DAT.
             HP    C1553A, HP 35470A, HP 35480A, SONY SDT-5000,
             SONY  SDT-5200, WangDAT  2600, WangDAT 3400
        \_ do you want somethin like an exabyte 8505 or mammoth based? -shac
           \_ 8505      -randal
        \_ I think Microtech makes a 17 tape Sony based DAT loader.
1998/1/21 [Uncategorized] UID:13532 Activity:nil
1/19    Whee, recycled motd! 100% post-consumer content!
1998/1/21 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:13533 Activity:very high
1/19    People I have talked to have experienced better performance
        running NT server on their standalone desktop, even though
        MS claims NT Workstation is optimized for such a task.
        Has this been your experience, too?  -agee
        \_ Are you saying you really think M$'s claims have anything to do
           with reality?
        \_ As a workstation?  No.  Server sucks as a workstation in my
           experience given equal hardware, etc, etc.  If you can stomach
           it, Win95 is tremendously faster.  --embarassed to know these things
           \_ Actually, I installed NT Server on all of our group's
              machines, just for yuks.  It's an amazing hog and
              gives you no benefits besides immeasurably irritating
              your stupid Winblows admin.  Of course, that's more
              than worth it...  -John
                \_ D00d!  AIX is the future!  -reiffin
                \_ You're not supposed to *use* NT Server.  You install
                   Server, Exchange, SQL, DNS, DHCP, user accounts, whatever,
                   then go away.  You don't login and use it as a workstation,
                   fool.  Don't you have anything better to do than install
                   the wrong OS on your group's workstations?
                   \_ Are you dense?  I said I did it for laughs.  In any
                      case, they're both fundamentally broken and slow
                      and inappropriate for techs' workstations at a unix-
                      oriented company.  Moron.  -John
                      oriented company.   -John
                      \_ And it didn't bother anyone that you replaced
                         everyone's OS "for laughs"?  What work do they do?
        \_ NT Server gives more priority to background processes compared
           to NT Workstation.  The caching is different too.
           \_ What if I configure NT Workstation to give equal priority
              to foreground and background threads?  Isn't this priority
              configurability not NT server specific?
                \_ The time slices are different.  NTS uses a 120ns (ns?) time
                   slices while NTW uses 10,20, or 30(?) depending on how you
                   set the priorities.  NTS spends less time doing context
                   switches thus, technically speaking, NTS is more efficient
                   than NTWS, however NTWS will appear more responsive because
                   of the shorter time slices and incrased foreground
                   priority.   -NT pseudo-Guru
                   \_ I don't know if I should believe this so called guru,
                      since s/he gives the wrong unit for context switching.
                      ns?  come on, get real.
                      \_ I'm not a physicist and said I wasn't sure what the
                         unit types were.  Frankly, I don't care.  The concept
                         is still true.  Don't like the answer?  Go read a
                         book and quote me wrong on something I didn't put a
                         question mark next to.  I also didn't say "guru".
                         Perhaps this is a comprehension (also known as nit-
                         picker) problem on your part, not a conceptual fault
                         on mine?  -NT p-G
                   \_ M$ is good at making "different" products using one or
                      two different configuration lines. Expect IE to be
                      called something else, and expect the gov to let them
                      go.
                      \_ Hey I never said the two OS's were stunningly
                         different.  I was just explaining to the best of my
                         knowledge the differences as they exist.  I'm aware
                         and readily acknowledge that the bulk of the source
                         is exactly the same between the two.  NTS does have
                         some extra admin tools on the CD but that isn't OS
                         level stuff.  -NT p-G
1998/1/21 [Computer/SW/Compilers, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:13534 Activity:nil
1/14    gcc 2.8.0 & libstdc++2.8.0 are in /csua/tmp, courtesy of alanc & peterm
        \_ what are the main improvements?  Isit stable?
                \_ /csua/tmp/gcc-2.8.0.changes
1998/1/21 [Computer/SW/Languages] UID:13535 Activity:kinda low
1-21    Anyone have any specific comments on following tape drives:
        C1554 Dat. 24GB DDS-3 Int ...............$1045
        C5648A Dat. 24GB x 6 Int Autoloader......$2595
                (both at http://www.computercentral.com       -randal
                \_ DAT tapes suck compared to 8mm, they are extremely
                   unreliable.  -tom
1998/1/21 [Uncategorized] UID:13536 Activity:nil
1/20    What's it like to work for KLA-Tencor?
1998/1/21 [Computer/Theory] UID:13537 Activity:high
1/20    math 110, dubins or frenkel?  comments on either appreciated. --jon
        \_ dubins is starting to go senile
        \_ No math class is worth taking unless it's being taught
           by the _man_ himself, H.H. Wu!
           \_ They still let Wu teach?  How about the French guy, Pew? (sp)
1998/1/21 [Uncategorized] UID:13538 Activity:nil
1/20    kate winslet!  tonight show!  tonight! - danh
1998/1/21 [Uncategorized] UID:13539 Activity:moderate
1/20    Will cmlee and tom *both* just please shut the hell up?
        \_ I will if he will.  -tom
        \_ when did this bad blood started?  is it hidden affection for
           each other expressed in another form?
           \_ it started when cmlee started insisting on walling insipid,
              repetitive bullshit that interests no one other than himself,
              and it will stop when he does.  -tom
              \_ He may be annoying, but you're really being the stupid
                 one, walling insipid, repetitive bullshit that should
                 be left to nwrites instead of trying everbody else's
                 patience with you and cmlee's stupid catfights.
1998/1/21 [Computer/Domains] UID:13540 Activity:nil
1-21    Any idea on how to register a .su domain?  -John
1998/1/21-22 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:13541 Activity:very high
1/21    ssh versions through 1.2.21 have security hole in ssh-agent - upgrade
        to 1.2.22 or stop using ssh agent until you do.
        \_ Uh oh... you mean people will be able to snoop my incredibly
           sensitive private email and see what porn I'm downloading?  Help!
           Help!  The sky is falling!
        \_ Any URL?
           \_ for the porn?
           \_ See:
              http://www.cs.hut.fi/ssh-archive/messages/980121-145129-28265 -dim
        \_ Once again, is there an URL confirming this?
           \_ http://www.cs.hut.fi/ssh-archive/messages/980121-145129-28265
           \_ Just read the freaking ssh 1.2.22 release notes or
                comp.security.ssh
1998/1/21-22 [Computer/Networking, Consumer/TV] UID:13542 Activity:insanely high 66%like:13586
1/21    Tonight.  7:00.  B5.  Casa-de-nweaver.  Be there.
                - tape delay ? its 7pm EST 4pm PST
                \_ old episodes @ 4pm PST, Season 5 Episodes Wed @7pm PST
        \_ You providing food, drink, and women or just the TV and cable?
                \_ how about tv, cable, and a lot of annoyance?
        \_ I provide the TV, cable, and space.  Someone else will have
           to provide the munchies, booze, and babes.  -nick
        \_ Can we have a nick party at nicks that's similar to other
           soda parties (ie. tara party)?
        \_ Hold a lingerie party at nicks?
          \_ No Way, I do *not* want tosee a bunch of geek guys in lingerie.
                \_ Various physicians recommend that as a cure for nymphomania.
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