Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1996:October:11 Friday
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1996/10/11 [Computer/Networking] UID:31934 Activity:nil
10/11   U.C. Berkeley's connection to the internet went down early this
        morning due to a power outage in Palo Alto at BBNPlanet's hub site.
        It's supposed to be back online this afternoon (hopefully)
        - see http://ucb.net.barrnet-alert for more info/the latest details.
1996/10/11-11/16 [Academia/Berkeley/Ocf] UID:31935 Activity:nil 72%like:31885
10/30   Volunteer for the CSUA/OCF Help Sessions!  If you think you can
        teach people of varying clue level any of the topics that are in
        ~helper/helper.topics (or any others you can think of), send mail
        to help-organizer@csua
1996/10/11 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:31936 Activity:nil
10/11   Was E-mail affected by this morning's internet outage?
        I have successfully been able to telnet in as of this afternoon,
        but my usual daily mail doesn't seem to have come in.
        \_ HOW THE HELL DO YOU EXPECT E-MAIL TO GET HERE WITH NO NET?
         CARRIER PIGEON?  USE YOUR BRAIN (OR DON'T YOU HAVE ONE?)
        \_ DOWN MEANS DOWN.  No web, no mail, no ping, NO NOTHING. AND
           IT'S STILL DOWN.
         \_ unless you're elite enough to be able to reroute your
            own packets via LBL or another UC
          \_ You can't do that unless you had access to the
             downstream routers at LBNL or another UC.
             \_ or you just login to one of those places and
           telnet here from there
        \_ That's funny, I'm on-line through a machine at CSUN (Northridge),
         telnetted into UCSD and telnetted again to Soda.  I'm here, but
         my mail is not.  What gives?
         \_ the routers of the internet are not as smart
            as people think.  you'll have to wait till bbnplanet
            is working again.
         \_ The UC's are all connected together - mail from other
            UC hosts are here - THE REST OF THE WORLD STILL CAN'T GET
            THROUGH because routers don't know they can get to us via
            other UC's.   BE PATIENT - NOTHING IN YOUR E-MAIL IS THAT
            IMPORTANT.
          \_ We're just talking about it, not being impatient.
          And how do YOU know nothing in our e-mail is
          important? You don't.
1996/10/11 [Recreation/Food] UID:31937 Activity:nil 68%like:31925
10/5    Okay - forget food, time to buy the politburo "English for Dummies":
        BBQ 10/12 3pm to whenever at the 4th floor balcony. Everyone &
                         /-"Pot luck" is not the same as "Potluck"
        Anyone invited.  Pot luck so bring real food or expect to chip in $.
        \_ why caps mid-sentence?       \_ Verbs are cheap.  Use them.
        There be sports and etc so come!
                \       \_ "and etc"? What next? "sports and and more"?
                 \_ Try using the correct tense, such as "There will be"
        \_ Why not post to http://ucb.org.csua & ucb.cs.undergrads then?
         \_ we're too elite to invite other people
        \_ i'm having my own way elite potluck - danh
i am so elite
\_ PHUCKER!
1996/10/11 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:31938 Activity:nil
10/11/96 Why doesn't the libraries at Cal allow people to check their e-mail
        or programming when other schools allow it?  I mean some of us do
        real stuff like programming.
        \_ Because there are plenty of other places to do that stuff.
           (and you can login from the library terminals without trying
            too hard)
         \_ I know you can login library terminals easily but I mean
            like why do they allow people to surf on the web and
            not do stuff like telnet.  Besides, who said you can't
            do research by e-mail.  They said personal email not
            permitted but what about mailing lists and stuff.
            \_ Because there are plenty of MF's to telnet from
         where they get pissed at people spending too much time
          surfing the web.
          \_ That's true but the machines in the library are
             wasted when the ones in the MF's are Macintrashes
             and also, who cares what people do on the
             computer as long as they don't destroy the machine.
             Besides, since when was telnet defined as e-mail?
Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1996:October:11 Friday